Why does god need a spaceship

According to NASA, 23 were Protestant and six Catholic, with a high proportion of them serving as church leaders in their congregations. The astronauts didn't talk publicly about their faith very much, but that's largely because NASA started clamping down on public expressions of faith after the famous Christmas Eve Bible reading of Apollo 8, the first manned mission to the moon.

They ended the broadcast with Anders saying, "For all the people on Earth, the crew of Apollo 8 has a message we would like to send you. They then took turns reading from the Book of Genesis, beginning with "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" and concluding with "and God saw that it was good. The case was rejected by the courts, but it had its impact. NASA told the astronauts to tone it down when it came to wearing their faith on their spacesuit and they discouraged Aldrin from reading from Scripture while he was on the moon's surface.

Undaunted, Aldrin took advantage of a few moments before he and Neil Armstrong left the lunar module to step onto the moon. He radioed to Mission Control: "Houston. This is Eagle, the LM Pilot speaking. I would like to request a few moments of silence. I would like to invite each person listening in, wherever and whomever he may be, to contemplate for a moment the events of the past few hours and to give thanks in his own individual way. Aldrin was an elder in his Presbyterian Church and had received permission from his pastor to take bread and wine with him to space and give himself Communion.

During a radio blackout, Aldrin writes, "Just before I partook of the Communion elements, I read the words which I had chosen to indicate our trust that as man probes into space we are in fact acting in Christ.

I sensed especially strongly my unity with our church back home, and with the church everywhere. I read: 'I am the vine, you are the branches. Whoever remains in me, and I in him, will bear much fruit; for you can do nothing without me.

During the Apollo 15 mission two years later, astronaut James B. If we lose them, we lose ourselves. I need my pain! It ought to be a revelation that comes at the end of the story. Pretty please? This is hardly the only story to link absence of pain with absence of identity, or faith healers with charlatans, lost lambs, and false gods.

But so many of these ideas are muddled here. I have so many questions after watching The Final Frontier that I sincerely doubt any of the writers bothered to take into consideration.

Seriously, can we just pause for a minute here? Or does he honestly believe that everyone has genuinely seen the Light and have chosen to follow him of their own free will? And what happens to everybody who was brainwashed after God is proven false?

Does that simultaneously break their faith in Sybok as well? And what about their pain; does that ever return to them?

Also, why are we talking like each species has only one god and one afterlife anyway? We have so many gods. We have gods falling out of our butts, people. And I know, I get it: ethnocentricity happens to everyone, including SF writers.

The Summerland? And seriously, I have no idea how many gods are currently being worshipped on Earth much less how many have been worshipped since the dawn of time but are we really saying that every single one of them is the same? Are they all supposed to be manifestations of one true divine force? Also, a malevolent, false god as the Big Bad for your SF story could actually be pretty interesting.

DID find God? There is no wonder or fear in the search for God, no emotional stakes, no dramatic tension. Hell, the only person who seems to feel any real sense of loss is Sybok, and, seriously, who even cares about him? Even his sacrifice play feels inevitable. So, the human, the Klingon, and the Romulan in the beginning of the movie? The Enterprise comes for the human. A Bird of Prey comes for the Klingon. For the love of every god imaginable, why the hell does Sybok know anything about Christopher Columbus?

Why do you keep doing this to me, Star Trek? It is quite literally one of my least favorite things about you. That time when Spock completely surrenders rather than kill Sybok? Not that he should have killed his half-brother. Come on, man. Get creative! The initial climb is fine. Leonard Nimoy, as always, makes me laugh. It gets better for me as time goes on, but normally Bones is kind of my favorite, and for the first twenty minutes, he was getting on my nerves.

I was very sad about this. What the hell is it doing in this movie? I know they bring it back at the very end, but. Kirk has slipped off the mountain he was climbing and only just saved by Spock. Were we having a good time? He failed to escape. It has ideas, I guess.

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More. I Agree. Please turn on javascript in your browser to play chess. Log In. Navigate Public Forums Search Recommended. In Ezekiel it is written that God has some type of flying craft with an altar inside. And then Ezekiel goes up to God in a fiery chariot with the face of a lion. Since I see many Christians in this forum who take their bible as verbatim I wonder if any would dispute that God indeed has a spaceship.

SwissGambit Caninus Interruptus. Originally posted by caissad4 In Ezekiel it is written that God has some type of flying craft with an altar inside. Originally posted by SwissGambit -1 for even reminding me of that movie. The flying Chariot was needed by Ezekiel, so his human body could be transported up into the heavens.

It was not needed by God, who is Spirit. Ezekiel's vision is related to the problems we were discussing concerning Samson. It is a symbol of God and man moving together in utter coordinated harmony for the doing of God's will upon the earth. Its not a spaceship. It is a symbolic vision of God "moving" within His people and they "moving" in Him and by His direction and power.

Originally posted by sonship Ezekiel's vision is related to the problems we were discussing concerning Samson. Yes, you are right. It was not Ezekiel he was talking about, it was Elijah.